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Access Date: November 10, 2024
From the American Horology Archive:
Seth Thomas Watch Co.
Grade: 11
Manufacturer: | Seth Thomas | |
Manufacturer Location: | Thomaston, Connecticut | |
Movement Serial Number: | 35843 | |
Grade: | 11 | |
Model: | 4 | |
Estimated Production Year: | 1890 | |
Run Quantity: | 1,000 | |
Grade/Model Run: | 1 of 23 | |
Grade/Model Total Production: | 13,100 | |
Size: | 18s | |
Jewels: | 7j | |
Movement Configuration: | Adaptable | |
Movement Finish: | Gilt | |
Movement Setting: | Key | |
Plate: | 3/4 Plate | |
Balance Type: | Expansion | |
Regulator: | Plain | |
Hairspring: | Flat | |
Standard Dial Type: | Single-Sunk | |
Adjusted: | No | |
Railroad Grade: | No | |
Movement Markings: | Seth Thomas Thomaston, Conn. Safety Pinion |
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Case: | Various | |
Run ID: | 52.11G1.18S52.184M1.U1.K1.7J13 | |
Data Research: |
1904 Seth Thomas Serial List |
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Database Version: | v52.431 | |
Advanced Metrics | ||
PWDB Absolute Rarity Index: Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 39.44 | |
PWDB Relative Rarity Index: Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 116.00 | |
Share of Production: Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 0.925% | |
Registry Population: Scoped for This Run Only | 8 (0.80%) | |
Research Note: Original Seth Thomas serial lists designate 35001-36200 as "Model 4." However, #36089 and #36099 have been verified as more consistent with Model 2 movements (profile plates, patent date marked on pillar plate), with the exception that they are Keywind/Keyset like the standard Model 4. These movements require a special classification since the Model 2 movements are lever-set in standard production. It is unclear whether the Seth Thomas factory recognized these as Model 2 because of the consistency with other Model 2 movements or Model 4 because the core movement is keywind/keyset. Either way, this variation was only produced in a very short run of movements, perhaps fewer than 100. The current run has been segemented from this uncommon variant and is consistent with the proper Grade 11 Model 4 classification.
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Production Metrics Tree: Grade 11
Target Profile: 18S-M4-7J-GK-U
Seth Thomas Grade 11 (All Variations): 13,100 ETP |
18S: 13,100 100.00% 18s, Grade 11 |
18S-M4: 13,100 100.00% 18s, Grade 11, Model 4 |
18S-M4-7J: 13,100 100.00% 18s, Grade 11, Model 4, 7 Jewels |
18S-M4-7J-GK: 13,100 100.00% 18s, Grade 11, Model 4, 7 Jewels, Adaptable/Key/Gilt |
18S-M4-7J-GK-U: 13,100 100.00% |
Population Registry for This Run
Image | Serial Number | Run Position | Primary Identification Method | Discovery Date | |
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There are 8 watches in the population registry for this run with 4 images.
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Verification Reports for this Run
The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.
SethThomasFan Top Contributor Seth Thomas Expert Supporter 388 · December 10, 2023
Serial Number 35843 was reported as accurate.
SethThomasFan Top Contributor Seth Thomas Expert Supporter 388 · September 28, 2023
Serial Number 35062 was reported as accurate.
SethThomasFan Top Contributor Seth Thomas Expert Supporter 388 · March 5, 2023
Serial Number 35960 was reported as accurate.
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