Pocket Watch Database

From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin Grade 123 Pocket Watch

Elgin National Watch Co.

Grade: 123

Manufacturer: Elgin Question Mark
Manufacturer Location: Elgin, Illinois Question Mark
Movement Serial Number: 4885922 Question Mark
Grade: 123 Question Mark
Model: 5 Question Mark
Class: 9 Question Mark
Estimated Production Year: 1893 Question Mark
Run Quantity: 2,000 Question Mark
Grade/Model Run: 5 of 7 Question Mark
Grade/Model Total Production: 13,000 Question Mark
Variant Est. Production: 9,000 (18S-M5-17J) Question Mark
Size: 18s Question Mark
Jewels: 17j Question Mark
Jewel Setting: Screw-Set Question Mark
Movement Configuration: Openface Question Mark
Movement Finish: Gilt Question Mark
Movement Setting: Pendant Question Mark
Plate: Full Plate Question Mark
Barrel: Going Question Mark
Train: Quick Question Mark
Regulator: Moseley Question Mark
Hairspring: Breguet Question Mark
Adjusted: Yes Question Mark
Adjusted to Temperature: No Question Mark
Railroad Grade: No Question Mark
U.S. Patents: 77078, 347272, 345619 Question Mark
Case: Various Question Mark
Run ID: 1909.123G5.18S1117.185M248.O316.P438.17J18 Question Mark
Data Research: 1896 Elgin Serial List
1904 Elgin Serial List
1915 Elgin Serial List
1927/1950 Elgin Serial List
Question Mark
Database Version: v52.431 Question Mark
Advanced Metrics
PWDB Absolute Rarity Index:
Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
39.14 Question Mark
PWDB Relative Rarity Index:
Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
15.07 Question Mark
Share of Production:
Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
0.026% Question Mark
Registry Population:
Scoped for This Run Only
19 (0.95%) Question Mark

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Verification Reports for this Run

The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.


Anonymous · August 2, 2024

Serial Number 4885210 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · April 18, 2023

Serial Number 4885229 was reported as accurate.

2251lyle 78 · September 11, 2022

Serial Number 4884504 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · August 31, 2022

Serial Number 4885262 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · August 9, 2022

Serial Number 4885484 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · July 21, 2022

Serial Number 4885262 was reported as accurate.

nicnic Supporter 403 · May 16, 2022

Serial Number 4884134 was reported as accurate.

Pinko2 69 · December 27, 2021

Serial Number 4884504 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · February 25, 2021

Serial Number 4885450 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · February 25, 2021

Serial Number 4885450 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · February 25, 2021

Serial Number 4885450 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · January 8, 2021

Serial Number 4885212 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · October 7, 2020

Serial Number 4884966 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · January 17, 2020

Serial Number 4884530 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · July 31, 2019

Serial Number 4885663 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · March 18, 2017

Serial Number 4884343 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · December 26, 2015

Serial Number 4885895 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: According to Elgin Watch Company Grade and Serial
Numbers by Roy Ehrhardt, the watch is railroad
grade.
Curator Response: Thanks for the report. Since the Grade 123 was not adjusted to positions, it would not have qualified on the majority of American railroads at the time of production.

Anonymous · December 24, 2015

Serial Number 4885411 was reported as accurate.

cmdraven 4041 · March 18, 2014

Serial Number 4885604 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · October 28, 2013

Serial Number 4885611 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: MY MOVEMENT SERIAL NR: 4885611 IS CLEARLY STAMPED
17 JEWEL, NOT 15
Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 15j to 17j

Anonymous · June 23, 2013

Serial Number 4884867 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Mine is 17 , this info is reading 15j
Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 15j to 17j

Anonymous · May 1, 2012

Serial Number 4884502 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: I verified the SZ# and the movement is brass and
marked 17j Adjusted, also the case is nickle and
the movement is a swing out.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 15j to 17j

Anonymous · April 3, 2012

Serial Number 4884212 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: its marked 17j
was told production year 1891 and it was RR
Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 15j to 17j
Elgin Grade 123 Pocket Watch