Pocket Watch Database


From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin Grade 86 Pocket Watch

Elgin National Watch Co.

Grade: 86

Manufacturer: Elgin Question Mark
Manufacturer Location: Elgin, Illinois Question Mark
Movement Serial Number: 3845836 Question Mark
Grade: 86 Question Mark
Model: 2 Question Mark
Class: 22 Question Mark
Estimated Production Year: 1890 Question Mark
Run Quantity: 1,000 Question Mark
Grade/Model Run: 10 of 16 Question Mark
Grade/Model Total Production: 15,700 Question Mark
Grade/Model Unrealized Production: 300 Question Mark
Size: 16s Question Mark
Jewels: 15j Question Mark
Jewel Setting: Pressed/Friction Settings Question Mark
Movement Configuration: Interchangeable Question Mark
Movement Finish: Nickel Question Mark
Movement Signing Style: Gothic Blackletter Question Mark
Movement Inlay Color: Black Question Mark
Movement Setting: Lever Question Mark
Plate: Bridge Plate Question Mark
Bridge Type: 3-finger Straight Question Mark
Barrel: Going Question Mark
Train: Quick Question Mark
Regulator: Moseley Question Mark
Hairspring: Breguet Question Mark
Adjusted: Yes Question Mark
Adjusted to Temperature: No Question Mark
Railroad Grade: Yes Question Mark
U.S. Patents: 185867, 77078, 10554 Question Mark
Movement Markings: Elgin Nat'l Watch Co.
Adjusted
Case: Various Question Mark
Run ID: 1452.86G10.16S221.162M18.C82.L669.15J427 Question Mark
Data Research: 1896 Elgin Serial List
1904 Elgin Serial List
1915 Elgin Serial List
1927/1950 Elgin Serial List
Question Mark
Database Version: v52.433 Question Mark
Advanced Metrics
PWDB Absolute Rarity Index:
Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
47.27 Question Mark
PWDB Relative Rarity Index:
Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
18.21 Question Mark
Share of Production:
Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
0.031% Question Mark
Registry Population:
Scoped for This Run Only
16 (1.60%) Question Mark
Research Note: #3845556: Verified with improper after-market "21 Jewels" marking on the pillar plate. Despite the fraudulent marking applied after leaving the factory, the movement is entirely consistent with the standard Grade 86 classification, featuring 15 jewels [eBay #164998599317].

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Verification Reports for this Run

The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.


Anonymous · April 12, 2024

Serial Number 3845182 was reported as accurate.

DocRogan43 Supporter 87 · March 31, 2023

Serial Number 3845836 was reported as accurate.

DocRogan43 Supporter 87 · March 31, 2023

Serial Number 3845836 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · July 16, 2021

Serial Number 3845264 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · April 24, 2020

Serial Number 3845534 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · March 3, 2020

Serial Number 3845262 was reported as accurate.

cbzimm Supporter 469 · May 29, 2019

Serial Number 3845647 was reported as accurate.

wayner1943 9 · February 17, 2019

Serial Number 3845244 was reported as accurate.

WLBelkriver33 804 · October 8, 2018

Serial Number 3845224 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · April 21, 2018

Serial Number 3845772 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · October 24, 2016

Serial Number 3845258 was reported as accurate.

heyclink 9 · December 12, 2015

Serial Number 3845590 was reported as accurate.

rafymon98 8 · October 28, 2015

Serial Number 3845203 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · October 8, 2015

Serial Number 3845276 was reported as accurate.

jerrydk7 227 · April 22, 2014

Serial Number 3845324 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · April 27, 2013

Serial Number 3845487 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Plate changed from 3/4 to Bridge
Elgin Grade 86 Pocket Watch