Elgin Pocket Watch: Serial Number 30689227 (Grade 478)

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Access Date: November 13, 2024

From the American Horology Archive:

Elgin National Watch Co.

Grade: 478

B.W. Raymond

Manufacturer:	Elgin
Manufacturer Location:	Elgin, Illinois
Movement Serial Number:	30689227
Grade:	478
Variation:	B.W. Raymond
Model:	15
Estimated Production Year:	1928
Run Quantity:	4,000
Grade/Model Run:	51 of 91
Grade/Model Total Production:	185,400
Variant Est. Production:	171,400 (16S-M15-21J-ONL-A5PTI)
Size:	16s
Jewels:	21j
Movement Configuration:	Openface
Movement Finish:	Nickel
Movement Setting:	Lever
Plate:	3/4 Plate
Barrel:	Going
Train:	Quick
Regulator:	Ball
Adjusted:	Yes
Adjusted to Position:	Yes
Adjusted # of Positions:	5
Adjusted to Temperature:	Yes
Adjusted to Isochronism:	Yes
Railroad Grade:	Yes
Wind Indicator Available:	Yes
Wind Indicator Present:	Mixed
U.S. Patents:	77078, 596407, 596408
Case:	Various
Run ID:	13450.478G51.16S3460.1615M285.O6274.L2397.21J396
Data Research:	1927/1950 Elgin Serial List
Database Version:	v52.431
Advanced Metrics
PWDB Absolute Rarity Index: Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration	558.20
PWDB Relative Rarity Index: Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration	215.65
Share of Production: Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration	0.366%
Registry Population: Scoped for This Run Only	46 (1.15%)
$ Estimated Value (12 Month Change):	11.17% Analyzing 1,565 Sales

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Production Metrics Tree: Grade 478

Target Profile: 16S-M15-21J-ONL-A5PTI-B.W. RAYMOND

Elgin Grade 478 (All Variations): 185,400 ETP
16S: 185,400 100.00% 16s, Grade 478
16S-M15: 185,400 100.00% 16s, Grade 478, Model 15
16S-M15-21J: 185,400 100.00% 16s, Grade 478, Model 15, 21 Jewels
16S-M15-21J-ONL: 173,400 93.53% 16s, Grade 478, Model 15, 21 Jewels, Openface/Lever/Nickel		Other: 12,000 Other Configs or Unclassified
16S-M15-21J-ONL-A5PTI: 171,400 92.45%	Other: 2,000 Other Adjustments or Unclassified
16S-M15-21J-ONL-A5PTI-B.W. RAYMOND: 171,400 92.45%

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Verification Reports for this Run

The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.

Anonymous · September 29, 2023

Serial Number 30689005 was reported as accurate.

Chronified Supporter 212 · June 8, 2022

Serial Number 30690189 was reported as accurate.

1whatever 50 · May 17, 2022

Serial Number 30689227 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · May 24, 2021

Serial Number 30689977 was reported as accurate.

bamadadof3a Supporter 45 · September 21, 2020

Serial Number 30692679 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: This serial number has wind indicator. Elgin Avion
dial that says flight hours on the wind indicator
circle?

Anonymous · July 23, 2020

Serial Number 30689501 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · June 17, 2020

Serial Number 30692485 was reported as accurate.

waltham1833 71 · March 14, 2020

Serial Number 30692691 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · February 13, 2020

Serial Number 30691018 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · November 9, 2019

Serial Number 30689929 was reported as accurate.

JoeJudi 2 · June 14, 2019

Serial Number 30690642 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · July 28, 2018

Serial Number 30690085 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · July 10, 2018

Serial Number 30692382 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · May 8, 2018

Serial Number 30689965 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · March 19, 2018

Serial Number 30690263 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · January 14, 2018

Serial Number 30689965 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · October 13, 2017

Serial Number 30689368 was reported as accurate.

timerestored 278 · September 25, 2017

Serial Number 30691944 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · May 6, 2017

Serial Number 30691780 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: I really think that I am wasting my time and
energy here. I have tried more than once to show
this date is WRONG. It is a 1927.

Look in the Price Guide, and on the Elgin web
site and you will see that is correct 1927

Curator Response: As stated on the site, production years are simply estimates, usually accurate within +/-3 years. ALL other resources utilize estimated production dates as well. There are no original records that pinpoint production years for Elgin. The two sources you cite are secondary sources that provide extrapolated production estimates.