Elgin Pocket Watch: Serial Number 2936658 (Grade 82)

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Access Date: November 10, 2024

From the American Horology Archive:

Elgin National Watch Co.

Grade: 82

Mixed Run: "G.M. Wheeler" and "Elgin Nat'l Watch Co." Movements

Manufacturer:	Elgin
Manufacturer Location:	Elgin, Illinois
Movement Serial Number:	2936658
Grade:	82
Variation:	Mixed
Model:	3
Class:	4
Estimated Production Year:	1888
Run Quantity:	2,000
Grade/Model Run:	15 of 65
Grade/Model Total Production:	155,000
Variant Est. Production:	40,000 (18S-M3-15J-HGL-U-MIXED)
Size:	18s
Jewels:	15j
Jewel Setting:	Screw-Set
Movement Configuration:	Hunting
Movement Finish:	Gilt
Movement Setting:	Lever
Plate:	Full Plate
Barrel:	Going
Train:	Quick
Regulator:	Moseley
Adjusted:	No
Railroad Grade:	No
U.S. Patents:	77078
Case:	Various
Run ID:	1040.82G19.18S649.183M57.H905.L436.15J306
Data Research:	1896 Elgin Serial List 1904 Elgin Serial List 1915 Elgin Serial List 1927/1950 Elgin Serial List
Database Version:	v52.431
Advanced Metrics
PWDB Absolute Rarity Index: Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration	466.67
PWDB Relative Rarity Index: Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration	180.28
Share of Production: Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration	0.306%
Registry Population: Scoped for This Run Only	13 (0.65%)
$ Estimated Value (12 Month Change):	-3.36% Analyzing 527 Sales

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Production Metrics Tree: Grade 82

Target Profile: 18S-M3-15J-HGL-U-MIXED

Elgin Grade 82 (All Variations): 163,000 ETP
18S: 163,000 100.00% 18s, Grade 82
18S-M3: 155,000 95.09% 18s, Grade 82, Model 3			Other: 8,000 Other Models or Unclassified
18S-M3-15J: 120,000 73.62% 18s, Grade 82, Model 3, 15 Jewels		Other: 35,000 Other Jewels or Unclassified
18S-M3-15J-HGL: 120,000 73.62% 18s, Grade 82, Model 3, 15 Jewels, Hunting/Lever/Gilt
18S-M3-15J-HGL-U: 120,000 73.62%
18S-M3-15J-HGL-U-MIXED: 40,000 24.54%	Other: 80,000 Other Variants or Unclassified

Population Registry for This Run

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Verification Reports for this Run

The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.

jason4kstate 268 · July 16, 2022

Serial Number 2935899 was reported as accurate.

Fifty50 Supporter 350 · June 29, 2022

Serial Number 2935227 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · May 16, 2022

Serial Number 2935037 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: I see that your reference photo of ELGIN shows
that it is NOT signed Wheeler. However, the
description says it IS a Wheeler.

Best wishes and thanks for all your hard work.

Curator Response: Thanks for the report. The Grade 82 was produced as both a named ("G.M. Wheeler") and nameless movement ("Elgin Nat'l Watch Co."). The only difference is the primary marking. The example image still represents the Grade 82 even if not marked "G.M. Wheeler." There are some "G.M. Wheeler" Grade 82 movement images that have been graciously uploaded by other contributors to the database.