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1927 Deco Elgin 12s Men’s Dress Pocket Watch W/ Green & Black Enamel
$175.00
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Access Date: November 14, 2024
From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin Grade 452 Pocket Watch
Elgin National Watch Co.

Grade: 452

G.M. Wheeler

Manufacturer: Elgin Question Mark
Manufacturer Location: Elgin, Illinois Question Mark
Movement Serial Number: 21077534 Question Mark
Grade: 452 Question Mark
Model: 4 Question Mark
Estimated Production Year: 1919 Question Mark
Run Quantity: 1,000 Question Mark
Grade/Model Run: 3 of 66 Question Mark
Grade/Model Total Production: 69,000 Question Mark
Size: 12s Question Mark
Jewels: 17j Question Mark
Movement Configuration: Openface Question Mark
Movement Finish: Nickel Question Mark
Movement Setting: Pendant Question Mark
Plate: 3/4 Plate Question Mark
Barrel: Going Question Mark
Train: Quick Question Mark
Regulator: Moseley Question Mark
Adjusted: Yes Question Mark
Adjusted to Position: Yes Question Mark
Adjusted # of Positions: 3 Question Mark
Adjusted to Temperature: Yes Question Mark
Adjusted to Isochronism: Yes Question Mark
Total Adjustments: 6 Question Mark
Railroad Grade: No Question Mark
U.S. Patents: 77078, 596407 Question Mark
Case: Various Question Mark
Run ID: 10551.452G3.12S1531.124M28.O4349.P7762.17J1528 Question Mark
Data Research: 1927/1950 Elgin Serial List
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Database Version: v52.431 Question Mark
Advanced Metrics
PWDB Absolute Rarity Index:
Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration		 207.74 Question Mark
PWDB Relative Rarity Index:
Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration		 80.22 Question Mark
Share of Production:
Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration		 0.136% Question Mark
Registry Population:
Scoped for This Run Only		4 (0.40%) Question Mark
$ Estimated Value (12 Month Change): 3.41% Analyzing 182 Sales Question Mark
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Production Metrics Tree: Grade 452

Target Profile: 12S-M4-17J-ONP-A3PTI

Elgin Grade 452 (All Variations): 69,000 ETP
12S: 69,000 100.00%
12s, Grade 452
12S-M4: 69,000 100.00%
12s, Grade 452, Model 4
12S-M4-17J: 69,000 100.00%
12s, Grade 452, Model 4, 17 Jewels
12S-M4-17J-ONP: 69,000 100.00%
12s, Grade 452, Model 4, 17 Jewels, Openface/Pendant/Nickel
12S-M4-17J-ONP-A3PTI: 69,000 100.00%

Population Registry for This Run

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Verification Reports for this Run

The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.

WatchMaker50 6 · April 23, 2020

Serial Number 21077553 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · September 18, 2019

Serial Number 21077553 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · July 26, 2019

Serial Number 21077356 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · July 1, 2019

Serial Number 21077252 was reported as accurate.

pmwas1 97 · November 10, 2013

Serial Number 21077534 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: I believe it's not six positions but six
adjustments. This would probably be 3 positions,
heat, cold, isochronisp perhaps??? At least it's
marked 3P in most databases, so I believe this was
in fact the correct option. Six adjustments does
not mean 6 positions, anyway, BWR had eight :)
Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 3

Anonymous · April 27, 2013

Serial Number 21077534 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Size changed from 14 to 12
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 3

Anonymous · September 27, 2012

Serial Number 21077553 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: 17J, G. M. Wheeler, Adjusted 6 positions, gold
jewel settings.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Size changed from 14 to 12

Anonymous · September 27, 2012

Serial Number 21077553 was reported as inaccurate.

No further details were submitted with the report.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Size changed from 14 to 12

Anonymous · September 27, 2012

Serial Number 21077553 was reported as inaccurate.

No further details were submitted with the report.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Size changed from 14 to 12

Anonymous · September 26, 2012

Serial Number 21077553 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: G. M. Wheeler, 21J, Adjusted 6 Positions, Gold
jewel settings
Changes since this report was submitted:
Size changed from 14 to 12
Elgin Grade 452 Pocket Watch