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From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin Grade 12 Pocket Watch
Elgin Grade 12 Pocket Watch

Elgin National Watch Co.

Grade: 12

M.D. Ogden

Manufacturer: Elgin Question Mark
Manufacturer Location: Elgin, Illinois Question Mark
Movement Serial Number: 193471 Question Mark
Grade: 12 Question Mark
Variation: M.D. Ogden Question Mark
Model: 1 Question Mark
Class: 5 Question Mark
Estimated Production Year: 1872 Question Mark
Run Quantity: 5,000 Question Mark
Grade/Model Run: 24 of 59 Question Mark
Grade/Model Total Production: 70,255 Question Mark
Variant Est. Production: 37,902 (18S-M1-11J-HGK-U-M.D. OGDEN) Question Mark
Size: 18s Question Mark
Jewels: 11j Question Mark
Movement Configuration: Adaptable Question Mark
Movement Finish: Gilt Question Mark
Movement Setting: Key Question Mark
Plate: Full Plate Question Mark
Barrel: Going Question Mark
Train: Slow Question Mark
Regulator: Plain Question Mark
Adjusted: No Question Mark
Railroad Grade: No Question Mark
U.S. Patents: 77078 Question Mark
Case: Various Question Mark
Run ID: 169.12G24.18S160.181M158.H168.K166.11J73 Question Mark
Data Research: 1896 Elgin Serial List
1904 Elgin Serial List
1915 Elgin Serial List
1927/1950 Elgin Serial List
Question Mark
Database Version: v52.431 Question Mark
Advanced Metrics
PWDB Absolute Rarity Index:
Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
211.52 Question Mark
PWDB Relative Rarity Index:
Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
81.68 Question Mark
Share of Production:
Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
0.139% Question Mark
Registry Population:
Scoped for This Run Only
22 (0.44%) Question Mark
$ Estimated Value (12 Month Change): 0% Analyzing 221 Sales Question Mark

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Verification Reports for this Run

The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.


Anonymous · April 28, 2024

Serial Number 194500 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · August 31, 2023

Serial Number 191867 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · May 19, 2022

Serial Number 194758 was reported as accurate.

Bostonjoe Top Contributor Supporter 196 · December 18, 2021

Serial Number 193883 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · November 23, 2021

Serial Number 192900 was reported as accurate.

cmdraven 4041 · November 6, 2021

Serial Number 193298 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · March 19, 2021

Serial Number 191306 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · February 1, 2021

Serial Number 193193 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · December 29, 2020

Serial Number 194082 was reported as inaccurate.

No further details were submitted with the report.

rdleyden 3 · February 5, 2020

Serial Number 191143 was reported as accurate.

Scott88 2 · December 13, 2019

Serial Number 191847 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · July 20, 2019

Serial Number 192488 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · May 12, 2019

Serial Number 192334 was reported as accurate.

bubba70 543 · May 11, 2019

Serial Number 192344 was reported as accurate.

bubba70 543 · May 11, 2019

Serial Number 192344 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · April 2, 2019

Serial Number 194213 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · March 18, 2019

Serial Number 194100 was reported as accurate.

Pichejul 34 · December 31, 2018

Serial Number 190732 was reported as accurate.

Oldbummer 11 · December 28, 2018

Serial Number 194752 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · December 8, 2018

Serial Number 190349 was reported as inaccurate.

No further details were submitted with the report.

Anonymous · February 10, 2018

Serial Number 194790 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · July 19, 2017

Serial Number 193543 was reported as accurate.

Lalady 6 · June 30, 2016

Serial Number 190552 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · April 5, 2016

Serial Number 193871 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · May 27, 2014

Serial Number 191114 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: I'm not sure anything needs to be changed, however
my watch has 11 jewels.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 7J to 11j

Anonymous · April 15, 2014

Serial Number 194896 was reported as inaccurate.

No further details were submitted with the report.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 7J to 11j

Anonymous · March 29, 2014

Serial Number 190797 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 7J to 11j

wfcsoftball 105 · January 6, 2014

Serial Number 190750 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 7J to 11j

WilliamGene 69 · November 8, 2013

Serial Number 193800 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 7J to 11j

casillas 40 · September 1, 2013

Serial Number 193471 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Has at least 11 jewels. This grade is reported to
exist both in 7 jewel and 11 jewel versions.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 7J to 11j

Anonymous · May 19, 2013

Serial Number 194174 was reported as inaccurate.

No further details were submitted with the report.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 7J to 11j

Anonymous · April 5, 2013

Serial Number 190003 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: 11 jewels not 7
Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 7J to 11j

Anonymous · April 5, 2013

Serial Number 194566 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: 11 jewels not 7
Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 7J to 11j

Anonymous · March 20, 2013

Serial Number 193977 was reported as inaccurate.

No further details were submitted with the report.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 7J to 11j

Anonymous · January 3, 2013

Serial Number 194325 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · December 21, 2012

Serial Number 194325 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · September 24, 2012

Serial Number 191402 was reported as inaccurate.

No further details were submitted with the report.
Elgin Grade 12 Pocket Watch
Elgin Grade 12 Pocket Watch