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Access Date: November 15, 2024
From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin National Watch Co.
Grade: 342
| Manufacturer: | Elgin |  |
| Manufacturer Location: | Elgin, Illinois | |
| Movement Serial Number: | 17015783 | |
| Grade: | 342 | |
| Model: | 13 | |
| Class: | 127 | |
| Estimated Production Year: | 1913 | |
| Run Quantity: | 1,000 | |
| Grade/Model Run: | 2 of 5 | |
| Grade/Model Total Production: | 5,000 | |
| Variant Est. Production: | 4,000 (16S-M13-17J-ONL-A4P) | |
| Size: | 16s | |
| Jewels: | 17j | |
| Movement Configuration: | Openface | |
| Movement Finish: | Nickel | |
| Movement Setting: | Lever | |
| Plate: | 3/4 Plate | |
| Barrel: | Going | |
| Train: | Quick | |
| Regulator: | Moseley | |
| Adjusted: | Yes | |
| Adjusted # of Positions: | 4 | |
| Adjusted to Temperature: | No | |
| Railroad Grade: | No | |
| U.S. Patents: | 77078, 596407 | |
| Case: | Various | |
| Run ID: | 8294.342G2.16S1956.1613M5.O3092.L2108.17J1157 | |
| Data Research: |
1915 Elgin Serial List 1927/1950 Elgin Serial List |
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| Database Version: | v52.433 | |
| Advanced Metrics | ||
| PWDB Absolute Rarity Index: Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 15.05 | |
| PWDB Relative Rarity Index: Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 5.76 | |
| Share of Production: Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 0.010% | |
| Registry Population: Scoped for This Run Only | 15 (1.50%) | |
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Research Note: #17015783: Verified as Marked "TASCO Special" on the movement with a dial signed "The Albert S. Samuels Co. - San Francisco."
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Production Metrics Tree: Grade 342
Target Profile: 16S-M13-17J-ONL-A4P
| Elgin Grade 342 (All Variations): 5,000 ETP | |
| 16S: 5,000 100.00% 16s, Grade 342 |
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| 16S-M13: 5,000 100.00% 16s, Grade 342, Model 13 |
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| 16S-M13-17J: 5,000 100.00% 16s, Grade 342, Model 13, 17 Jewels |
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| 16S-M13-17J-ONL: 5,000 100.00% 16s, Grade 342, Model 13, 17 Jewels, Openface/Lever/Nickel |
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| 16S-M13-17J-ONL-A4P: 4,000 80.00% | Other: 1,000
Other Adjustments or Unclassified |
Population Registry for This Run
| Image | Serial Number | Run Position | Primary Identification Method | Discovery Date | |
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There are 15 watches in the population registry for this run with 3 images.
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Verification Reports for this Run
The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.
Anonymous · September 24, 2024
Serial Number 17015200 was reported as inaccurate.
especially for THE ALBERT S. SAMUELS CO. 17 JEWELS
ADJUSTED, and is all gold trimmed movement and has
Montgomery dial that says THE ALBERT S. SAMUELS
CO. ELGIN.
Rickhufnagel7 Top Contributor Elgin Expert Hampden Expert Supporter 629 · January 6, 2022
Serial Number 17015783 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · August 25, 2021
Serial Number 17015796 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · April 30, 2020
Serial Number 17015224 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · March 28, 2020
Serial Number 17015072 was reported as accurate.
Mobilaero Top Contributor Supporter 307 · September 15, 2018
Serial Number 17015753 was reported as accurate.
jerrydk7 227 · March 22, 2014
Serial Number 17015072 was reported as accurate.
lewis23 Supporter 40 · November 6, 2013
Serial Number 17015008 was reported as accurate.
nagamitsu 11 · September 3, 2013
Serial Number 17015168 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · March 3, 2013
Serial Number 17015331 was reported as inaccurate.
Anonymous · September 19, 2012
Serial Number 17015381 was reported as inaccurate.
Anonymous · September 19, 2012
Serial Number 17015381 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · August 2, 2012
Serial Number 17015753 was reported as inaccurate.
grade 313 like ser. no. 17097817
Anonymous · August 2, 2012
Serial Number 17015753 was reported as inaccurate.
Anonymous · July 26, 2012
Serial Number 17015753 was reported as inaccurate.
Anonymous · July 26, 2012
Serial Number 17015753 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · July 5, 2012
Serial Number 17015957 was reported as inaccurate.
